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2012/10/20 巴關與韓國達顯


英文原文來自合一社區官網http://www.worldonenesscommunity.com/notes/Sri_Bhagavan_Webcast_with_Korea_-_October_20%2C_2012

中文翻譯傅國倫http://blog.sina.com.cn/s/blog_af4dfe2e01016zfu.html

 

 

問題:在韓國有許多的靈性課程與組織在追求覺醒。但是當我們看目前的情況,似乎透過合一課程是最簡單、最迅速的。實際上,我們看到在韓國合一社群有許多人覺醒。合一課程與其他的靈性課程之間有什麼差別呢?

 

Bhagavan:合一運用神的力量,這就是為什麼它如此迅速。

 

問題:我們從印度得到聆聽覺醒的人分享經驗與向他們提問,並接受他們的Deeksha的指引。為什麼這些事情很重要?

 

Bhagavan:當你把一塊鐵片放到一塊磁鐵旁邊時,鐵片就會慢慢變成磁鐵。同樣地,當你聆聽覺醒的人的話時,你就會逐漸地變成那樣。

 

問題:覺醒是什麼?我瞭解到覺醒是我們大腦結構永久性的變化,是不可逆的。那在我們來生會發生什麼?如果我們再次出生,我們的身體和大腦不會是相同的,那我們還是覺醒的嗎?

 

Bhagavan:覺醒的人通常不會再次出生。即使他們再次出生,他們仍然是覺醒的。實際上有全然覺醒的孩子。

 

問題:直到我第三次參加合一靜心,我都很難過,因為我內在沒有理由的憤怒,我幾乎要爆炸。這時我才意識到它是來自我與母親的關係。

我母親在家中照顧我的兩個孩子。在我的思想中我感謝我的母親,但我的心不覺得有什麼感謝,覺得這似乎是理所當然的。我只想得到我母親真誠的承認,這是我的心想接受的。我如何才能獲得?我怎樣才能改善我與母親的關係?

 

Bhagavan:你很快就會覺醒。當你覺醒時,你所有的人際關係都會改善。

 

當你覺醒時,你的心也會隨之綻放。

 

問題:我聽說,要覺醒,我們的大腦結構必須改變。就我而言,我覺得在我的頭腦中形成的沉重的東西。我試圖找到負荷的原因,但是卻找不到。當我回顧我的生命,我無法清楚看到我的過去,也無法看到當時的情緒。所以在生命回顧時,很多次我發現自己在打瞌睡,不容易看見東西。在這種狀態下,我請求我的神融化了我的負荷,但是我仍然感覺它們在我內在。像我這樣心沒有綻放的人有可能經驗到大腦的負荷和覺醒嗎?或者只有當我們的心綻放時,才可能覺醒?

 

Bhagavan:你很快就會覺醒。

問題:我的母親和大哥都死于肝癌。其餘的兄弟姐妹的肝都不好。我自己在靜心時,有時會覺得我的肝會痛。如果我覺醒了,我的覺醒可以影響我的兄弟姐妹和消除這種家庭的身體業力嗎?或者在覺醒之前這業力必須先被移除?當一個人覺醒時,會對他的整個家庭有什麼樣的影響?

Bhagavan:你的業力不會影響你的覺醒。當你覺醒時,你就會自動免於某些類型的業力。

問題:我知道合一靜心只有幾個月的時間,在去年6月,我才第一次參加Bhagavan的達顯。從那時起,我意識到有很多的思想來臨,這些思想強烈地佔據了我。即使只是很短的時間,但我可以觀察它們在我的腦海裡來來去去,在這之中我經驗到寧靜。這經驗對我來說很驚奇,在這之後,我開始嚮往覺醒。

 

但是由於地點和時間的問題,我只參加線上合一靜心。最近我沒有經驗任何的變化。你覺得我這樣沒有參加過合一覺醒課程的人或新來的人可以接受你的恩典在今天的達顯覺醒嗎?我想知道今天什麼可以幫助我們覺醒?

Bhagavan:你將從今天的祝福中受益,而且很快就會覺醒。

 

問題:在去年6月的深化課程和訓練師課程中,我第一次參加你的達顯。即使當我回到韓國,我很想你。當我有好消息或遭遇麻煩時,我更想看到你。在這種情況下,我在我的腦海裡呼喚你的名字Amma Bhagavan。我很想知道當我這樣呼喚你時,你能聽到我的聲音嗎?我知道這個問題很愚蠢、孩子氣,但是我期待著你的答案。

 

Bhagavan:是的,我可以聽到你的聲音。

 

問題:我有個47歲的兒子。在過去的27年裡,他受苦于心理的問題。我為他做了很多的儀式幫他療愈,並在合一大學做了幾次火供。

有一段時間,我兒子和我一起參加合一靜心,他的狀態有所改善了。但是最近他不參加合一,而且沒有做任何事的渴望。我漸漸老了,要求他去做一件一件的事情並不容易。這對我來說太難了。我能為我的兒子做些什麼呢?

 

Bhagavan:你將會覺醒。當你覺醒時,你兒子的狀況就會改善。

 

問題:幾個星期前,我想要覺醒,但同時我又害怕覺醒。但是最近我看到我周圍的人覺醒,我意識到我是多麼想覺醒。覺醒感覺就像是從神得到的禮物。

我在21天的實修中,並從覺醒的朋友接受Deeksha。現在我有希望和勇氣我很快就會覺醒。但是我仍然有輕微的恐懼我可能無法覺醒。我知道我的努力在覺醒中沒有那麼重要,但有時我發現自己越來越不耐煩。

Bhagavan,如果我信任我的神的話,你認為我真的可以覺醒嗎?在今年內所有的訓練師和Deeksha給予者都會覺醒嗎?

 

Bhagavan:你將會覺醒。在今年底,大部分韓國的訓練師和Deeksha給予者都會覺醒。

問題:我想問有關臨在的問題。我從來沒有經驗過強烈的臨在。只有一次,我針對臨在靜心時,我流下了眼淚,經驗到平靜。我請求我的神讓我經驗到強烈的臨在,但是我沒有經驗到。我如何更深刻地經驗到臨在?為什麼經驗到臨在,活在臨在中如此重要?覺醒和生活在臨在中的差別是什麼?

 

Bhagavan:覺醒和生活在臨在中是完全不同的。這不能從智性來理解。你必須自己尋找答案。生活在臨在中會帶來體悟神。覺醒本身不會帶來體悟神。生活在臨在中會帶來體悟神。

 

問題:我將我的經驗提交給印度,但是我尚未被公佈覺醒了。但是我會自動打電話給人們提供他們所需要的訊息,我可以感覺其他人的狀態如何,這是自動的。我對我的狀態感到很困惑。請解釋為什麼我這樣做。並給予我覺醒的祝福。

 

Bhagavan:你離覺醒只有幾英寸了,你可能隨時會覺醒。

 

問題:當我看到人們覺醒時,我感到很高興,很驚訝,我的心充滿了希望和喜悅,我可能很快就會覺醒。我聽說這一連串的覺醒會在2013年繼續。這種趨勢會持續下去嗎?我還聽說Bhagavan會從合一運動的幕前消失。那合一運動與我們會發生什麼?

最近我們看到越來越多的人覺醒,我們也覺得韓國人的一般意識層次提升了。但是諷刺的是最近在韓國社會中青少年的自殺率,強姦兒童和可怕罪行的數量增加了,或更常被揭發。這是為什麼?

 

Bhagavan:直到這世界上的最後一個人覺醒前,合一現象不會停止。不僅在韓國,而是世界各地人類的生存條件都非常糟糕。但是韓國將迅速地覺醒。當我們培訓指導師時,他們最先看的電影之一是韓國關於覺醒的電影。當我們挑選指導師來培訓時,我們給他們看一些電影。其中一部是韓國關於覺醒的電影。韓國將迅速地覺醒。

 

問題:最近我看到在韓國許多人覺醒。起初我對每個覺醒的新聞覺得很高興。那時候我覺得自己可能也覺醒了。我將我的經驗送到印度,但是還沒有公佈我覺醒。

 

隨著時間過去,我聽到更多的人覺醒,我發現自己嫉妒他們,我的頭腦很痛苦。我可以看到自己沒有覺醒的證據,我看到自己是多麼渴望重要性。這對我來說非常痛苦。我也意識到自己很害怕失去自我感。

 

我經驗了覺醒狀態,但是狀態並沒有持續很長的時間。我如何使覺醒狀態進入永久的覺醒?我該怎麼做?

 

Bhagavan:你什麼也不必做,你很快就會覺醒。

 

問題:最近在我身邊我看到越來越多的人覺醒。每當我聽到這樣的消息時,我感到很高興。但我知道這個問題很可笑的,有時我看到一些覺醒的人是我認為會最後覺醒的人。在平時似乎更穩定、更有內在誠信的訓練師和Deeksha給予者卻沒有覺醒。造成覺醒最重要的因素究竟是什麼?

 

Bhagavan:覺醒取決於你的前世以及你在母親子宮內時發生的事情。

 

 

SRI BHAGAVAN WEBCAST WITH KOREA – OCTOBER 20, 2012

(no video available -- posted by Onenessnews.com)

 

On the 20th of October, We had Sri Bhagavan's Darshan for the Koreans. It was a festival for us. There are 19 trainers and deeksha givers who are awakened. With this happy news, people were filled with joy and passion preparing for Sri Bhagavan's Darshan. People came to believe that on the day, many people would be awakened on the spot. We had Bhagavan's darshans in three major cities: Seoul, Kwangju, and Daegu. People invited their parents, brothers, sisters, and friends. Around 400 people gathered only in Seoul. In Kwangju, around 150 poeple gathered and in Daegu, another 150. More than 100 non-deeksha givers participated.

 

 

 

Namaste, Dear beloved Bhagavan.

 

We are greatly honored to have you here tonight. It's beyond words. And we heard that how much it is difficult for you to find some time for us Korean people because of your busy schedule. Let me express our deep gratitude for you to spend such precious time with us. Your presence is remarkable and a great gift for the Korean people. These days, more and more deeksha givers and trainers are awakened in the Korea Oneness community. We know that these are also gifts from you. We are very grateful for that, too. And Korean deeksha givers and trainers are so happy with the hope of awakening.Thank you so much.

 

 

 

Q1. There are many spiritual programs and organizations pursuing awakening in Korea. But when we look at the current situation, it seems to be the easiest and quickest to get awakened through Oneness programs. And in reality, we see so many people get awakened in the Korea Oneness Community, these days. What are, if any, the differences between Oneness Programs and the other spiritual programs?

 

 

 

A1. Oneness makes use of the divine power. That is why it is so fast.

 

 

 

Q2. We have the guideline from the India to share the experiences from and ask questions to, and receive deeksha from awakened people, and we do so. Why is it so important to listen to their experiences and ask questions and receive deeshas from them before Oneness Meditation?

 

 

 

A2. When you take a piece of iron to a piece of a magnet, the iron piece slowly becomes a magnet. Similarly, when you listen to an awakened person, proper result is that you become slowly like that.

 

 

 

Q3. What is awakening? I learned that awakening is a permanent change in our brain structure which is not returnable. Then when we are reincarnated, what would happen to our awakening? If we are born again, our body and brain would not be the same, but still does our awakening hold up? I feel these days, people's attention is really focused on awakening. So I want your clear teaching. Thank you.

 

 

 

A3: Awakened people normally do not take rebirth. Even though they take a rebirth, they always remain awakened. In fact, we have children that are fully awakened.

 

 

 

Q4. Dear beloved Bhagavan!

 

Until the third time of my attending Oneness Meditation, I had had a tough time because of anger and fury with no reason arising from the bottom of my heart. I almost exploded. Then I realized it came from the relationship with my mother.

 

My mom is taking care of my two children at my home. In my thought, I'm grateful to my mom for that, but my heart doesn't feel any gratitude to her and seems to take it for granted. I just want a genuine recognition from my mom, which means the one that my heart accepts. How can I get it? And how can I set right the relationship with my mom?

 

 

 

Dear Bhagavan! I'm an only physically adult, but still a child in my heart.

 

Thank you. I love you.

 

 

 

A4: You are going to be awakened very soon. Once you are awakened, all your relationships would be instantly set right.

 

 

 

Q5. Dear beloved Bhagaed very soon. And when you are awakened, your heart too would automatically flower.

 

 

 

Bhagavan,I appreciate you, dear Bhagavan. I've got lots of help from the Oneness Meditation.

 

 

 

I have two questions.

 

I heard that to get awakened our brain structure should be changed. In my case, I feel something heavy is formed in my heart. I tried to find the cause of the charge but couldn't. When I am reviewing my life, my past doesn't come clearly to me, neither the emotions at that time either. So during Life-review, many times I find myself dozing off. It's not easy to recognize something. At this state, I ask my divine to melt down my charges, but still I feel them within me. Is it possible for the person like me whose heart doesn't flower, to experience the changes of the brain and get awakened? Or is awakening possible only when our hearts flower?

 

 

 

A5. You will be awakened.

 

 

 

 

 

Q6. My mom and eldest brother died of liver cancer. The remaining siblings don't have good health in their liver, either. I myself, when in shadana, sometimes feel pains in mine, too. If I get awakened, can my awakening influence my siblings and remove this kind of physical karma of my family? Or should this karma be removed first before my awakening? I want to know what kind of influence can an individual's awakening have on the whole karma of a family? Thank you.

 

 

 

A6. Your karma would not affect your awakening. On your awakening, you would be automatically free of certain types of Karma.

 

 

 

Q7. More than anything else, I am grateful to Bhagavan for giving us this chance of grace. It' been only several months since I first came to know the Oneness Meditation. And last June, it was my first time to attend Bhagavan's darshan in Seoul. Since then, I realized that so many thoughts came to me and saw those thoughts occupy me with a very strong power. Even it was a short time, I could observe their coming and going in my mind, during which I could experience silence. This experience was amazing for me, and after that, I came to have a yearning for awakening.

 

 

 

But I only attend online Oneness Meditation due to location and time problems. These days, I don't experience any shifts. Do you think the people like me who haven't had awakening course yet or new comers can receive your grace of awakening in today's darshan? And I want to know what will help our awakening today?

 

Finally, I deeply appreciate Bhagavan and the people who are doing the practical job to help awaken the humanity.

 

 

 

A7. You will benefit from today's blessing, and very soon become awakened.

 

 

 

Q8. Dear, beloved Amma Bhagavan

 

During the last June deepening and trainer courses, I first had darshans with you, Bhagavan. Even after I came back in Korea, I miss you. When I have good news or am in trouble, I want to see you more. In that situation, I call your name, "Amma Bhagavan" in my mind. I'm wondering if you can hear my voice when I call you like that. I know this question is very silly or childlike, but I'm looking forward to your answer.

 

Thank you Bhagavan, and I love you.

 

 

 

A8. Yes, I can hear you.

 

 

 

Q9. I have 47 year-old son. He has suffered from a psychological problem for the last 27 years. I have done many rituals for his healing and done several times of Homa in Oneness University. And last time, I attended Navaratri Homa.

 

For a while, my son had attended Oneness Meditation along with me, and his state had improved. But recently, he doesn't attend OM, and doesn't show any desire to do anything. I'm growing older, and it's not easy for me to ask him to do one by one. It's too tough for me. What can I do for my son?

 

 

 

A9. You will become awakened. Once you are awakened, your son's condition will improve.

 

 

 

Q10. Until a few weeks ago, I wanted to get awakened, but at the same time I was afraid to do so. But recently as I see the people around me get awakened, I realize how much I want to be awakened. And the awakening feels like a gift from the divine.

 

I'm in 21 day shadana, and receive deeksha from awakened friends. Now I have hope and courage that soon I will also be awakened. Bhagavan! Still I have a slight fear that I might not be able to get awakened. I know that my effort doesn't matter so much in my awakening, but sometimes I find myself grow more impatient. Bhagavan if I trust my divine, do you think I can really get awakened? And will all the trainers and deeksha givers get awakened within this year?

 

 

 

A10. You are going to be awakened. Most of the Korean trainers and blessing givers would be awakened by the end of this year.

 

(Images seem frozen, it seems.)

 

 

 

Q11. I want to ask questions about the presence. I haven't experienced the presence so strongly. Only once I shed tears and experienced peace when meditating on the presence. I ask my divine to give me strong experiences of the presence but I couldn't have. How can I experience the presence more deeply? Why is it so important to experience the presence and live in the presence? What is the difference between the awakening and being in the presence?

 

 

 

A11. Being awakened and living in the presence is totally different. This cannot be intellectually understood. You must discover the answer by yourself. Living in the presence leads to god realization. Awakening by itself will not lead to god realization.  Living in the presence leads to god realization.

 

 

 

Q12. I sent my experience to India but am not yet to be announced to be awakened. But I automatically make a phone call to people to deliver a message that they need, and I can feel how other people's state is, which is so automatic. I'm confused with this my state. Please explain why I am doing so. And give me the blessing of awakening. Thank you, Bhagavan.

 

 

 

A12. You are inches close to awakening. You might be awakened at any moment.

 

 

 

Q13. As of October, 2012 now, we have 19 awakened people in Korean Oneness community. When I look at people get awakened, I feel happy, and amazed, and my heart fills with hope and joy that I might be awakened soon. I hear that these series of awakening will keep going on in 2013. And by what time, is this trend going to last? I also heard that you, Bhagavan will disappear from the front scene of the Oneness movement. Then what will happen to the Oneness Movement and us?

 

These days, as we see more and more people get awakened, we also feel that the general consciousness level of the Korean people has grown. But ironically, these days in the Korean society, the adolescent suicide rate, rapes of children, and the number of horrible crimes have increased, or are revealed more often. Why is that?

 

 

 

A13. Oneness is a phenomenon which will not stop till the last man on the planet will be awakened. The human condition not only in Korea but around the world is pretty bad. But Korea would awaken very very fast. When we used to take monks for training, one of the films they first saw was films from Korea on awakening. Whenever we select monks for training, we used to take monks for training, we used to show them some films, one of the films is about awakening in Korea. Korea will awaken very very fast.

 

 

 

Q14. Recently I see many people in Korea get awakened. At first I was very happy with each news of awakening coming. And At that time I also felt that I might be awakened, and sent my experience to India, but no announcement for my awakening yet.

 

 

 

And as time went by and I hear more people get awakened, I find myself jealous of them and my mind suffering. I could see the evidences of my not awakening and saw myself how much I have craved to be important and significant. That is a very much suffering for me. I also realized myself is afraid of losing the sense of 'I.'

 

 

 

Dear beloved Bhagavan, I experienced the awakened state, but the state hasn't lasted so long. How can I lead my awakened state into a permanent awakening? What should I do for that?

 

Thank you always for your being with us and protecting us.

 

 

 

A14. You should do nothing. You would be awakened very very soon.

 

 

 

Q15. These days, around me I see more and more people awakened. Whenever I hear such news, I feel happy. But I know this question is very ridiculous, but sometimes I see some people are awakened, who I've thought would be the last person in the Korean Oneness community to get awakened. At ordinary times, there are trainers and deeksha givers who seem more stable and better in recognizing their inner integrity have yet to get awakened but those who haven't seemed so get awakened. What, in the world, is the most important factor or element that creates awakening?

 

 

 

A15. Awakening depends on past lives and what happened while you were in the womb.

 

 

 

Anandji: Thank you, Bhagavan. The questions are over. All the people, they want blessings from Bhagavan for awakening. All of them want to become awakened.

 

Bhagavan: We will now meditate for minutes, which will help you awaken very very fast.

 

 

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