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2012/11/18 巴關與印度合一團體達顯


英文原文來自合一社區官網:http://www.worldonenesscommunity.com/notes/Sri_Bhagavan_Darshan_with_Oneness_India_Groups_-_November_18%2C_2012

中文翻譯http://blog.sina.com.cn/s/blog_af4dfe2e01017cov.html

 

 

問題:你說覺醒的人運用他的訓練,未覺醒的人被他的訓練所利用,這是什麼意思?

 

巴關:覺醒的人和未覺醒的人都有頭腦。對於覺醒的人而言,如果他要做一些工程的工作,他會運用一些工程知識來工作。然而,對於未覺醒的人而言,他不斷地被知識所利用。這就是為什麼你可以觀察到他們嘮叨個不停,他們無法保持沉默,因為他們被知識所利用。

 

問題:另一個問題是「覺醒的人從心來回應,未覺醒的人從頭來反應。」

 

巴關:例如,當一個覺醒的人在路上看到一個老乞丐,在一些日子裡,他可能會受到觸動而給予幫助。而在其他的日子裡,他可能會說:「一切都很好」,然後什麼也沒做。在這兩種情況下都沒有涉及思想,他沒有去思考。另一方面,未覺醒的人可能會去思考,他可能會認為「他很懶惰」,「他是受到神的懲罰」,「這是他的報應」等。但是當你覺醒時,就不會涉及思考。只有覺醒的人知道那是什麼。但是直到你覺醒,所有的行動都是來自于頭和智力。

 

問題:我們聽你說覺醒有100階,請你解釋一下那是什麼。

 

巴關:覺醒有100階。覺醒就像是一個100層的大層。無論你是在1層或100層,你都是覺醒的。但是也有差異存在。例如,在69層時,你的頭腦和它所有的內容都會存在,但是你不會被它所影響。然而從70層開始,頭腦就不存在了。直到69層,我們稱你為覺醒,在70層以後,我們就稱你為開悟。在這兩者之間有差異存在,舉例來說,在22層的覺醒的人看著一棵樹,他看到的樹葉會比在21層的人看到的更鮮豔。唯有當你到達那裡時,你才會知道。當你不斷參與課程,幫助他人覺醒,你就會一層一層地成長。

 

問題:我們這裡許多人都還未覺醒。他們想問是什麼阻礙了他們覺醒,以及他們必須做些什麼才能覺醒?

 

巴關:不用擔心。到2012年年底,95%的合一追隨者都會覺醒。剩下的5%在20134月時也會覺醒。幫助他人覺醒,你就會非常迅速地成長。

 

問題:在20121221日會發生什麼嗎?

 

巴關:什麼都不會發生,將是一個平常的日子。如果你在早晨看報紙,或去散步,或喝杯咖啡,你就會這樣做。大多數人的意識都會有輕微的轉變。有的人可能會感覺到,有的人可能不會。大量未覺醒的合一追隨者都會覺醒。

 

問題:在開悟之後頭腦的需求還會存在嗎?

 

巴關:大部分的合一追隨者在2012年年底時都會覺醒。但是頭腦內容的慣性會繼續存在。漸漸地,它就會失去它的力量。在20133月底時,需求就不再存在了。

 

問題:參加2013年的課程有什麼重要性?

 

巴關:除了舊的課程,我們將在2013年開始新的課程。這些課程只提供給覺醒的人。這課程是為了讓你的覺醒指數超過50。你們大多數覺醒的人的指數是8151620,諸如此類。Ramana Maharishi95。這些課程的目的是讓你至少達到50。從2013年起,課程的重點將是對於神的體悟。

 

問題:我們如何提高自己的意識層次?

 

巴關:你必須沈思每週的教導。我們給你的教導是很特別的。你不會在其他地方發現這樣的教導。如果你認為它們跟其他教導一樣,你就忽略了要點。合一的教導是非常獨特的。例如,在基督教中,教導是「愛他人」。在合一,只有一個教導,就是「愛自己」,你必須愛自己。如果你愛自己,你就會愛每個人,不是嗎?另一個例子是,如果你有很多的嫉妒,大部分的教導會說「免於嫉妒」,而合一說:「嫉妒?很好!歡迎!」與真實的在一起。

 

問題:我們許多人已經在阿瑪巴關的指導下做了許多年的服侍,現在我們在阿瑪巴關的恩典下覺醒了。我們現在也要繼續進行服侍嗎?

 

巴關:這取決於你,服侍是成長最快的方式。這是個美妙的武器,即使是最小的服侍,回報也是非常大的。如果你覺醒了,回報就會更大。這是得到善業最簡單的方式,所以這取決於你。如果要成長,你可以進行服侍。否則的話,你可以就是坐下來,放鬆。

 

問題:如何增進與阿瑪巴關的連結?

 

巴關:如果你幫助他人覺醒,你就會與阿瑪巴關非常親近。

 

 

Sri Bhagavan Darshan with Oneness India Groups - November 18, 2012

Groups from Coorg, Mysore, Mandya, Karwar and Mangalore - No video available.

 Gratitude to Jeet Sharma & Noni Kaufman for original post.

 

Q.1. Bhagavan, many of our devotees have a question from the benediction of teachings that you and Amma have given on the awakened one/unawakened one from the webcast Darshan. One of these says:"The awakened one makes use of his conditioning whereas the unawakened one is made use of by his conditioning" What does this mean, Bhagavan?

 

A.1. Yes! In the case of both the awakened and the unawakened, the mind will be there. In the awakened one, say if he has to do some engineering work. He will have some engineering knowledge which he will make use of to do that work.However the unawakened one, is constantly made use of by knowledge. That is why you can observe them talk incessantly, they cannot stay silent - because they are made use of by the knowledge.

 

Q.2.Thank you, Bhagavan. Another webcast teaching that our devotees have a question on is"The awakened one responds from the heart whereas the unawakened one reacts from the head"

 

A.2. See, for example, when an awakened person sees an old beggar on the road, on some days he may feel moved and help. On other days, he may say "all is fine" and do nothing. In either case there is no thinking involved. He does not think about it. On the other hand, it IS possible to think about it! The unawakened one may think "he's lazy", "he is being punished by god", "it is his karma" etc. But when you are awakened, there is no thinking involved. Only the awakened know what that is like. However, till you are awakened, all actions are from the head/intellect.

 

Q.3. Bhagavan, we have heard you speak about the 100 steps/levels of awakenening. Could you please explain what they are.

 

A.3. There are 100 levels of awakening. Awakening is like a 100 story building. Whether you are on the first floor or on the 100th floor, you are awakened. However there are differences in them. On level 69, for example, your mind will be there with all its contents but you will not be moved by it. However, from level 70 onwards, the mind itself is not there. Till level 69, we call you awakened, Level 70 onwards, we call you enlightened.There are differences between levels too - for example, for an enlightened person looking at a tree at level 22 looking at a tree the leaves would be a more intense green than one looking at it from level 21. Only when you reach there, you will know that. As you keep attending the processes, and helping others in awakening, you would grow from level to level.

 

Q.4. Many of our Sevaks here are unawakened. They have a question as to what it is that is preventing them from getting awakened, and also whether there is anything specific that they need to do in order to make it?

 

A.4. Don't worry. By the end of 2012, 95% of oneness followers will be awakened. The remaining 5% will make it by the April 2013. Help others in their awakening, then you would grow very fast.

 

Q.5. Many of our devotees have a question - what will happen on Dec 21st, 2012?

 

A.5. (Bhagavan smiles) Nothing will happen. It will be a normal day.If you read the newspaper in the morning, or go for a walk, or have coffee, you would do that. (Crowd laughs) Most of humanity will have a slight shift in consciousness. Some may feel it, others may not. A large number of Oneness followers who are as yet unawakened will make it.

 

Q.6. Will the needs of the mind continue to exist after enlightenment?

 

A.6. Most oneness followers will be awakened by the end of 2012. But the contents of the mind will there with its momentum. Gradually it will lose its power. By the end of March 2013, the needs will not be there.

 

Q.7.What is the importance of attending the courses in 2013?

 

A.7. Along with the old courses, we will be starting new courses in 2013. These courses will be only for Muktas. They are meant to get you beyond level 50. Most of you (awakened) are at levels 8, 15, 16, 20 like that.. Ramana Maharishi was at level 95.These courses are designed to get you at least to level 50. From 2013 onwards the focus of the courses will be God realization.

 

Q.8. Bhagavan, how do we increase our levels of consciousness?

 

A.8. You must contemplate on the weekly webcast teachings. We are giving you teachings which are very very special. Nowhere else you will find such teachings. If you think they are just like other teachings you have missed the point. Oneness teachings are very very unique. For example, in Christianity the teaching is "Love others" In Oneness, there is only one teaching - that is "Love yourself".You have got to love yourself. If you love yourself, you love everybody isn't it. As another example, if you have a lot of jealousy, most teachings would say "Be free of jealousy" Oneness says: "Jealousy? Good! Welcome!" Stay with the truth.

 

Q.9. Many of us Sevaks have been doing Seva for the past years under the guidance of Amma Bhagavan, and now we have become awakened by the grace of Amma Bhagavan have now become awakened. Do we continue to Seva now as well?

 

A.9. That is up to you. Seva is the fastest way to grow. It is a wonderful weapon. Even for the smallest of Seva, the rewards are very very great. If you are awakened the rewards are even greater. It is the easiest way to earn good karma. So it is up to you. If you want to grow, you can do Seva. (Smiling) Otherwise, you could just sit back and relax.

 

Q.10.Thank you Bhagavan. Lastly, Bhagavan, many of our devotees have a question - how to grow in their bond with Amma Bhagavan?

 

A.10. If you help others in their awakening you would become very very close to Amma Bhagavan.

 

Thank you Bhagavan. We would now like to meditate in your presence for a few minutes.

 

Bhagavan: Yes.

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